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Post by petere on Aug 2, 2019 2:45:24 GMT 12
Yes that’s right, that scene is a bit...you feel sorry for Mrs Pike!😑
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 2, 2019 9:26:10 GMT 12
He's not pretending to be a warden, it is Walker who was only just been speaking with Wilson, reminding the Sgt of the blackout. The blackout was everyone's responsibility, not just the ARP's.
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Post by Alan Hayes on Aug 2, 2019 11:32:08 GMT 12
I take your point about shared responsibility, but I don't think it's meant to be Walker.
The script has the line attributed to "VOICE". If it was intended to be Walker the direction would have been "WALKER O.O.V" (out of view) or something similar.
It could of course be that during the rehearsals the line was reassigned to Walker.
My feeling is that the line was given to Jimmy Beck but that it was not meant to be Walker delivering the warning. (I'd expect some sort of expected form of address, even "Put that light out, sir!" as Walker knows both people involved.)
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Post by Alan Hayes on Aug 2, 2019 11:41:49 GMT 12
I'm thinking he could have supplied an additional voice, much in the same tradition as in radio dramas, "Other parts are played by members of the cast."
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 10, 2019 18:56:39 GMT 12
I very much doubt he'd have called the Sergeant "Sir"!
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Post by Alan Hayes on Aug 10, 2019 22:03:25 GMT 12
Maybe not. But I'm still convinced it's meant to be a passer-by and not Walker, the script suggests that it's meant to be a generic "VOICE".
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 11, 2019 1:13:29 GMT 12
My opinion is it is Walker speaking. He was in the street and has only just left after speaking to Wilson.
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Post by petere on Aug 11, 2019 1:30:51 GMT 12
My opinion is it is Walker speaking. He was in the street and has only just left after speaking to Wilson. I think so too! And given Walker’s ...profession... maybe he was prone to ”hang about” to see if there was any business opportunities. |
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Post by jonboy on Oct 9, 2019 8:21:05 GMT 12
I did read that David Croft said the BBC received several letters of complaint when this episode was first broadcast saying it was morally wrong to suggest that Wilson had made Mrs Pike pregnant when they were not married...
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Post by Alan Hayes on Oct 16, 2019 20:02:37 GMT 12
Britain was a very different place back then, almost Victorian in some attitudes, so I can well believe that that was the case, Jon.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 16, 2019 22:02:37 GMT 12
So the viewing public did not mind that Wilson was clearly sleeping with Mavis, they were just angry that he thought she was pregnant?
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Post by JM2461 on Oct 17, 2019 18:51:20 GMT 12
How many letters is "several"? Two or three. That's the problem with 'vague' words like several. Several could be two or three, or two or three hundred, or more. I imagine even a decade later, and later still, there would be people who would have been upset with children being born out of wedlock, even on a TV show. Even today in some families and cultures it may be frowned upon. I could never see the fuss, then or now. I consider myself fairly old-fashioned, but not that old-fashioned.
I have three (now adult) kids and they were all born within wedlock, but if they weren't it wouldn't have bothered me, although my wife was very Catholic and it may have bothered her, a bit. But then, they were all born in the 80s and no-one really worried too much about that anyway, by that time, except as I said the odd few. I suppose when DA was set (the 40s) it was very different.
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Post by jonboy on Oct 18, 2019 21:06:42 GMT 12
I believe I read it in the book 'Dad's Army the Lost Episodes' & 'Several' was not quantified..
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Post by petere on Nov 10, 2019 15:29:04 GMT 12
And maybe it shows that a big portion of the audience were actually from the time before when DA was set. If you were watching around 1970, well then you easily could have been born around 1900! I’m not from the UK but around 1900, then you are almost Victorian! So: good point Alan!
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Post by petere on May 15, 2020 19:22:54 GMT 12
Great episode! Mrs Pike’s mother.... do we ever get to see her ?
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 16, 2020 2:04:48 GMT 12
No sadly.
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Post by Alan Hayes on Sept 13, 2020 12:24:29 GMT 12
Watched this great episode again tonight as part of my sequential viewing of all of Dad's Army. My feelings are much the same as before, but something I noticed which I hadn't picked up on before - while this episode is not the first to feature a reference to Mrs. Mainwaring (that's Shooting Pains), it is the first, I believe, where her unheard, off-screen actions affect the action (the telephone call in which she instructs her husband to come home).
Another lovely touch I'd not mentioned before is when Wilson and Jones are rehearsing for the upcoming wedding, with Jones doubling for Mrs Pike, Jones puts his arm through the Sergeant's own and play-acts as the blushing bride. The look on Jones face is priceless.
A great episode in which we get another fine insight into the characters and their relationships. And it's Wilson and Mrs Pike's turn to have an episode that focuses on them - and it's all rather lovely, as John Le Mesurier might have said.
8/10.
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Post by Col on Jan 30, 2021 15:16:46 GMT 12
I think Frazer should have got into the spirit of things and replaced Jones. He really looks the part.  |
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