Oh so you get him down there as well, I cannot stand the fella, always comes across as smug to me. To me it looked like the people doing the colouring has tried to make the skin too flesh coloured if that makes sense.
Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 30, 2015 20:38:59 GMT 12
Yeah, Mum watches Dickinson's Real Deal show. I hate it, haha.
I am not sure why the colour came back so orange on the faces, I know the team were under pressure to get it finished for the original re-broadcast, you'd think they'd go back and digitally fix it now though.
its yet another wasted opportunity by the bbc to put this out on dvd with the pilot episode of are you being served they put episode 3 of planet of the daleks from doctor who. "there was also a doc with ian lavender about who this lost dads army story was restored as I recorded it last time it was on has any one? seen the stage version ? we laugh at the sargent manger bit . yes a good story
Didn't realise this episode was available in colour until last weekend. I knew it was in black and white in my boxed set, so it did come as a surprise.
I have to say, I enjoy the Sergeant Major's patter as much as the Deadly Attachments Soggy chips/ Don't tell him pike / When ve vin this vor scenes. Some of the drill sergeants facial expressions are superb, along with his various put downs - and the way he bears down on Wilson to confront him about the cap is hilarious.
By coincidence I re-watched this right after ”A. Wilson(manager)?” and I realized that they are somehow similar, they both deal with the Mainwaring/Wilson ”rivalry”. It gives a good perspective of the two characters, that it is not just black or white all the time, that they have a kind of love-hate relationship.
You don’t really see Mainwaring during the field exercise, do you? One wonder how he performed with the rest of the platoon when they were ambushed by the Southgate platoon? Is it just me or is he missing in that sequence?
Great comedy to see how the members all write their letters in accordance with their different personalities. Godfrey’s text is so ceremonial that you can hardly make out what he wants. Pike’s is a bit juvenile and helpless. Walker writes as he talks, with an offer of a couple of bottles of Scotch if ”that could tip the balance”. I also learnt that there is something called the Royal Antidiluvian Order of Buffaloes and that Jones is a member of it! Never heard of this, but it exists, found an article on Wikipedia:
Having seen both the black and white and the chroma dot version, I prefer the colour version for some reason, feels warmer and I am used to the colour episodes I guess. It is the reason why I coloured in a short black and white clip using deep learning, just for fun. It is not perfect, but I have not spent much time training the neural networks. It is a bit green, but some of faces are better than the chroma version as are the uniform colours, reds not great. I will unlikely spend any more time on it due to other commitments, and I had expected BBC to have done it themselves by now. You could probably colour the all black and white episodes in a day on one PC.
Post by Alan Hayes on Apr 25, 2021 19:54:41 GMT 12
...but likely not to a standard that would be broadcastable. If it was you'd see more programmes and films colourised for release / screening. There are a lot of fan colourisations of programmes like Doctor Who and Timeslip but very few of them are convincing.
I imagine we are a few years away from deep learning technology producing convincing colourisations. But it will undoubtedly happen.
However, as always, there's a lot of resistance against colourisation from an artistic perspective, but as long as the original monochrome versions remain available I've never found it controversial. Of course in the case of Room at the Bottom, it was made in colour originally and that argument wouldn't apply.
Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 29, 2021 9:22:36 GMT 12
I wish the BBC would use modern technology to balance the colours in the colour recovered Room At the Bottom better. It's great to have it back in colour but it's still not quite right, and I am sure now they could repair that easily. Especially as they have all the colour references from other coloured episodes.
Post by Alan Hayes on Apr 29, 2021 10:14:36 GMT 12
They could probably get better results now but I suspect they are not in a hurry to pay for the work to be done again, not least because the episode has not received a home video release (something which remains surprising).
Why does this episode not have a home video release?
And forgive my ignorance but what is "deep learning"? A technique?
We are watching our DVD box again and what really was striking is that some episodes are very clear shot indoors, but the outdoor shots of the same episodes are very pale und unclear. I suppose it has to do with the limited possibilities they had then?