i swear down, one of the girls that comes in for the audition in the church hall is a man in drag, and not a very convincing one either! the one with long black hair, that looks like a bad wig! She comes on fourth or fith in the line she's tall, flat chested, and hidden throughout the scenes pretty much, and the fact she is so makes me even more convinced she is a man! Have a look and give me your opinion
Post by Andy Howells on Oct 2, 2015 6:54:32 GMT 12
I remember chatting with Talfryn's brother at a Dad's Army convention in Cardiff years ago, he was a lovely chap, but he seemed to hint that Talfryn had not been well liked especially by John Laurie.
I do wonder if there were cuts that never actually went out, but I think it was quite clear Jimmy Beck was never going to be replaced and I'm sure Jimmy and David had probably cut back Talfryn's lines towards the end of the series in order as not to upset the other cast members.
There was a story circulating that John Laurie had made a remark to Jimmy and David about "Yon Welshman isn't going to be in the next series is he?" so they dropped him. I don't think that's altogether true, Talfryn was already signed up to do the BBC drama Survivors by then and was already in work with several other programmes including Ken Dodd, so I doubt a few token lines in Dad's Army would have had much appeal by then. As it turned out those extra lines were evenly distributed by the back row boys anyway...
i still think it's a man, even with my glasses on! Regarding Talfryn, i really liked him, and hoped to see more of him, big pity his lines were cut back. I can never get why he seems to be disliked by quite a lot of DA fans
Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 5, 2015 22:30:47 GMT 12
Andy, Talfryn Thomas and John Laurie worked together in The Ken Dodd Experience in 1969, before Talryn sort of took over John's role on the show. So perhaps there was some bad blood about that. Who knows though, I think a lot of the stories attributed to John Laurie being kranky are perhaps misinterpreted because i know he loved to wind people up for a laugh too.
I have to be honest I don't like Cheesman's character at all and he irritates me to be quite frank. There are one or two moments where I will make an exception but I find his character annoying on the whole. It's not subtle enough for me, too overdone with the expressions and the silly pantomime antics. Which is by no means any disrespect to the actor who was brilliant, I just don't think the character worked.
Post by Andy Howells on Oct 7, 2015 9:43:22 GMT 12
There clearly wasnt much for him to do beyond My British Buddy and Man Of Action apart from the WC joke in Everybody's Truckin I can't think of any other memorable Cheeseman moments... Again, as Grace says no disrespect to Talfryn Thomas, he just doesnt have much else to do but react to everyone elses lines with facial expressions...
Sorry for dragging up a post of nearly 6 years ago but was watching The Godiva Affair last night and noticed that when the girls were led into the hall by the townclerk to audition for Lady Godiva (they needed to sit on the gymnastics horse) the camera kind of turned towards the vicar and verger and when turning back the whole platoon had entered the hall with Wilson sitting in between the girls, clearly charming them and chatting them up. Mainwaring sort of reprimanded him and ordered him to leave there. This gave me a flashback to several of Walker's scenes, for instance in All Is Safely Gathered In, where Mainwaring tells Wilson to stop them "doing that" in the hay. This scene gave me the impression it was originally intended for Walker, it seemed so fitting for him, but then my question is: where the scripts written long beforehand? When I can guess the Godiva Affair would have been about a year after his passing? Or is it just a coincidence? I know Wilson could be quite charming but wasn't the same sort of ladiesman like Walker was in my opinion.
Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 10, 2021 7:40:45 GMT 12
I can categorically state no, the script was not written with Walker in mind. Jimmy Perry told me that he and David did not write scripts ahead of time, speculatively. They only sat down to write them when they had been commissioned for the next series. So by the time they wrote the script for The Godiva Affair, James Beck was already long dead and buried.
The only scripts written that were meant to have him in and didn't were Things That Go Bump In The Night's studio scenes, and The Recruit.
Ah well that "mystery" seems cleared then. There was just an enormous likeness in this scene with the one that had Walker in it. Is it true or just a rumour audience figures dropped the first episodes James Beck was gone? But picked up again after a while?